
2026-04-17 09:48发布于湖南
你有没有注意到,许多孩子小时候对世界充满好奇、问个不停,可一旦进入高年级,却渐渐对学习提不起劲,甚至感到厌倦?
问题往往不在于孩子本身,而在于教育的方式——当学习变成被动的任务、考试的压力和“为未来做准备”的牺牲品时,孩子最容易失去的,恰恰是学习的原动力:兴趣。

那么,有没有一种教育,能让孩子从小就成为学习的主人,而不是被推着走的参与者?
长沙彼一米森林学校CBFS创校校长John Puddefoot约翰·普德富德在教职工专题培训会议上,对此给出了深刻而系统的回答。在他看来,兴趣驱动的教育不仅是教学方法的优化,更是对孩子成长路径的根本尊重。教育的本质,是唤醒而非塑造,是点燃而非填满。当学习扎根于孩子天然的好奇心,成长便会拥有源源不断的内生动力。


John Puddefoot 约翰·普德富德
CBFS创校校长
英国牛津大学学士和硕士学位、英国爱丁堡大学学士学位。
拥有40年学校教学、运营和管理经验的英国领先教育家。
曾在英国伊顿公学任职超过25年,其中担任教学主任和学术副校长7年。
拥有英美加澳新等国家和地区的本科升学指导经验,多人被牛津大学、剑桥大学、哈佛大学、斯坦福大学和耶鲁大学等世界名校录取。
曾任英国私立学校评估监督机构督查组成员,后成为国际学校督察组成员,以及英国统一入学考试的数学首席考官。
曾任斯里兰卡圣托马斯公学高级执行校长、印度海得拉巴阿迦汗学院创始校长、亚美尼亚共和国迪利然世界联合学院UWC的创始校长。
曾在中国参与创办了徐州嘉治剑桥公学和义乌公学,负责建校的运营管理。
在CBFS创校期间,担任咨询及执行管理的职务,包括学校建筑设计、设施配置、课程设计、人员任命、政策制定、校风创设等。
约翰校长首先总结了长沙彼一米森林学校(全文简称:CBFS)所采纳的价值观序列。

为什么以孩子兴趣为根基的教育至关重要?
原因有很多,但最重要的几点可能是:
它使教育精准适配每个孩子的成长节奏,学习顺序由孩子自主决定。
它直接回应了孩子在学习中“厌学/脱节”这一普遍问题。
它开始为孩子离开学校后的大学阶段做准备——当校园常规支持体系不复存在时,孩子能从容适应。
它为孩子的成年生活做好准备,让他们从小就学会为自己负责。

本文聚焦于上述第一点和第三点,尤其关注在学校与家长全方位庇护下成长的儿童与青少年,所面临的成长困境:
他们从未被允许经历失败;
他们从未被赋予自主学习的责任;
他们被教导死记硬背,而非独立思考;
他们从未为毕业后的独立生活做好准备,步入社会后很大程度上只能 “靠自己”。

全球诸多学校(绝非仅中国学校)都过度看重高考、A-Level、IB文凭等最终考试成绩,因而过度施教,把太多学生学习的责任揽到自己身上。这导致学生毕业后面临巨大的成长断层,因为他们从未学会如何为自己的学习负责。这种成长模式既不健康,也存在长远隐患,不利于学生的终身发展。

与之相对,教育存在多种不同的成长过渡模式(如下图所示),每种模式以不同方式描绘了学习的路径。(老师们认为,若能有标尺标注成长断层的高度会更直观,此处我们将其定义为大学入学所需水平。)

若将 “成长断层” 设定大学所必需的水平,四种模式分别呈现了不同的成长路径:
A模式:即前一张图中的模式——学校承担所有责任;
B模式:成长稳步推进,临近毕业时逐步加速;
C模式:幼年阶段平缓成长,7-10年级迎来快速蜕变,毕业前几年稳步过渡;
D模式:将所有重点放在早期阶段。

老师们共同探讨了四种模式的优缺点,同时兼顾每个孩子的发展差异性,有些孩子可能会偏好不同的模式。大家普遍达成共识:
B模式将成长关键期过度延后,虽优于A模式,但仍不足取;
D模式给低龄儿童施加了过重压力;
C模式为最优选择:让孩子在早期没有太大压力情况下尽早实现心智成熟,适配初中阶段的快速变化,从而在高中最后两至三年,具备自主负责、自律高效的成熟学习能力。

实际教学中,学校会针对不同学科、不同学生,灵活融合多种成长模式。教师全程跟踪指导,为每位学生定制适配的学习方案,这也是我们导师体系中至关重要的一环。

学习的核心关键词是:统筹、渐进、移交、责任。
我们以兴趣为导向的课程体系,从孩子入学之初就启动这一培养过程,逐步将学习的主导权移交至孩子手中。当他们毕业升学、奔赴各地深造时,已然成为自我驱动、自我管理、自我约束的学习者,能够自主规划自身的教育成长。

兴趣驱动与外部管控式教育的对比
本次讨论回归核心:兴趣驱动教育与外部管控式教育的本质差异。
约翰校长带领大家回顾了其此前发表的《教育出了什么问题》一文,文中以奥运滑雪运动员谷爱凌为例,阐述了找到人生热爱之事的重要性:即便前路必然伴随困难与付出,也会心甘情愿接纳。这些付出不会成为痛苦的牺牲,而是为追逐理想目标而主动奔赴的努力。
这一理念也契合 CBFS 的核心信条:主动学习,永远优于被动学习。

这种基于孩子兴趣的积极强化循环,正是我们的教育模式:兴趣驱动、以儿童为中心、探究式、兴趣驱动、以儿童为中心、探究式、导师引领的跨学科学习。

若学校背离这一路径,无视孩子的需求,单方面规定他们必须学什么——极易形成负面消极循环。即使是IB课程,在一定程度上也可能受到批评,因为学校尚未真正接纳IB设计思维背后的理念。
由于孩子们从未被给予空间和机会去发现自己的兴趣,他们会感到学习是被迫的,这就彻底违背了“主动学习永远优于被动学习”的教育原则。更令人担忧的是,随着孩子自我意识觉醒,他们极易在11-14岁这一关键成长阶段产生厌学情绪,从学习中“脱节”,而这一时期正是孩子人格与认知塑造的黄金阶段。

兴趣驱动学习的一个关键要素在于:我们更强调享受学习本身,而非将学习视作 “为他人规划的未来而牺牲当下”。教育者常以 “为未来铺垫” 为由,为枯燥无趣的学习辩解,这对孩子的学习动力与参与度而言,是毁灭性的打击。
一种远为更好的方法是:让孩子专注并享受当下的学习体验,让未来自然生长。

约翰·杜威在1938年出版的《经验与教育》一书中,精准诠释了这一理念,为兴趣驱动学习的正向发展指明方向。
活在当下
“我们需要学会从每一段当下的经验中尽可能多地汲取意义……这才是对未来唯一真正有价值的准备。”
-- 约翰·杜威 John Dewey
这一理念也引出两个核心教育问题:
在教师基于孩子 “应知必会” 的知识引导,与基于孩子 “好奇想学” 的兴趣驱动教育之间,如何找到最佳平衡点?
我们究竟如何定义 “经验”?部分经历看似微不足道,我们又该如何以愉悦且高效的方式,从中实现有价值的学习?

让我们依次来探讨。
关于平衡的问题
想必你与众多家长都会提出这样的疑问:
那必修课程该如何兼顾?
那些孩子必须掌握的知识是什么……
不管他们想不想学?
孩子又如何知晓自己需要掌握什么?
教师引导与兴趣驱动、以儿童为中心的探究式学习之间,正确的平衡点是什么?

我们不可能要求每个孩子重新探索人类文明的全部成果,这无异于让人类文明从零开始,这显然是荒谬不切实际的。
因此,教师传递知识、技能与科学学习方法的价值至关重要——这让孩子不必从头探索,而是 “站在前人的肩膀上”开启学习。但这并不意味着知识要被强行灌输给孩子,而是以适配的节奏、恰当的方式,贴合每个孩子独特的学习风格、兴趣与需求进行传递。
这正是导师制的核心优势:个性化学习,让孩子以最适合自己的速度、顺序、方式与方向,掌握必备知识。

那么经验呢?我们如何确保经验具有教育意义,而不是流于浅薄?
但什么是 “经验”?
我们如何“从每一个当下的经验中尽可能多地汲取意义”?
答案是:通过学会在经验发生的过程中,主动进行反思。
发生了什么?
这意味着什么?
它与哪些事物相关联?
我如何享受当下这一刻?
这段经历的深度与价值是什么?
这里的关键词是“反思”——这也是国际文凭组织(IB)经常使用的一个核心教育词汇。
反思意味着审视每一段经验、结合背景理解其内涵。即便这段经验起初短暂而浅显——比如我们只是让孩子骑在马背上几分钟,看看他们是否对马术感兴趣——我们也可以围绕这个经验建立一个微型的探究项目。

这正是CBFS导师引领式跨学科学习体系图的核心:我们可以围绕孩子的任何一段经验、任何一种兴趣,搭建完整的学习框架。我们已经在夏令营中实践过这样的思路, “孩子对马感兴趣”为主题,开展跨学科探究实践。

兴趣驱动
我们可以选择和孩子一起做一些事情……
但为了让一个单纯的经历变成一次教育经验……
我们需要对它进行反思……
填补其中的空白。
我们所做的,是思考那些可以围绕孩子的兴趣拓展学习维度,丰富成长体验:从体育、艺术、历史中解读马的意义,探究马的起源、生物特性、生命周期,以及马对人类历史与文明发展的贡献,同时积累中英双语中与马相关的丰富词汇。

一旦理解了这一思路,我们就可以将其应用于孩子的任何经验:比如夏令营参观汽车博物馆,或是其他各类实践活动。
参与培训的老师们借助空白课程框架图,自选兴趣主题,自主设计微型探究课程单元。

以儿童为中心
我们应该让孩子参与到他们自己学习的设计中:
你对什么感兴趣?
你已经知道什么?
我们能一起探索什么?
让我们共同学习!
我们将平凡的经历转化为丰富的教育体验,以兴趣为核心展开深度反思与探究。同时,我们通过“课程映射”,将所学的科目和获得的知识与国家课程标准中的要求进行对照,确保所有这些以兴趣为导向的探究涵盖了中国国家课程所规定的内容。

约翰校长分享了一个经典案例:通过下图所示的可视化图表,帮助人们更直观地理解“一百万”究竟有多大。我们可以利用“恐龙生活在数百万年前”这一兴趣点切入,提出各类问题,包括“一百万有多大?”——这正是小学数学课程中的一个具体内容。

该图显示:一百万等于100个一万,或者说100 × 100 × 100
全体老师都希望深入探讨这些及更多想法——这些问题同样出现在教师、家长和学生当中。因此,我们计划开展专题研讨,聚焦课程规划,以及如何应对教师、家长与学生面临的各类焦虑以及如何处理不同类型的特定焦虑与非特定焦虑。

有老师提问:即便我们做出了种种努力,全力推行兴趣驱动教育,仍有孩子表现出厌学情绪、“脱节”状态,该如何应对?
约翰校长答道:关键是将厌学视为一种信号,而非不良行为。它能帮我们读懂孩子的内心感受,引导我们与孩子沟通,挖掘他们真正感兴趣的事物。把孩子的行为表现当作线索,找到新的方式唤醒他们的学习热情。
我们一致同意,将在后续研讨中继续深入探讨这些重要议题。

Have you noticed that many children are full of curiosity about the world and never stop asking questions when they are young, yet once they enter higher grades, they gradually lose interest in learning or even become bored with it?
The problem often lies not with the children themselves, but with the way education is approached. When learning becomes a passive task, a source of exam pressure, or a sacrifice made "in preparation for the future," what children lose most easily is precisely the driving force of learning: interest.

So, is there an approach to education that allows children to become masters of their own learning from an early age, rather than being pushed along as passive participants?
John Puddefoot, Founding Principal of Changsha BeeMee Forest School (CBFS), gave a profound and systematic answer to this question during a staff training session. In his view, interest-driven education is not merely an optimization of teaching methods, but a fundamental respect for each child's path of growth. The essence of education is to awaken, not to mould; to ignite, not to fill. When learning is rooted in a child's natural curiosity, growth will be continuously fueled from within.


John Puddefoot
CBFS Founding Principal
Bachelor of Arts in Mathematics and Master of Letters from the University of Oxford, a bachelor's degree from the University of Edinburgh.
A leading British educator with 40 years of experience in school teaching, operations, and management.
Served at Eton College in the UK for over 25 years, including 7 years asDirector of Studies and Academic Vice-Principal.
With experience in undergraduate admission counseling for countries and regions including the UK, US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, many students have been admitted to world-renowned universities such as the University of Oxford, the University of Cambridge, Harvard University, Stanford University and Yale University.
Former member of the inspection team for UK private school evaluation agencies, later became a member of the international school inspection team, and Chief Examiner for Mathematics in the UK's unified entrance examinations.
Former Senior Executive Principal at St. Thomas' College in Sri Lanka, Founding Principal of the Aga Khan Academy in Hyderabad, India, and Founding Principal of UWC Dilijan in the Republic of Armenia.
Involved in founding Xuzhou Judge Cambridge Academy and Yiwu Public School in China, responsible for the operational management of school establishment.
During the founding of CBFS, in an advisory and executive role including the design and equipping of buildings the curriculum, the appointment of staff, the creation of policies, and the establishment of the school ethos.
John began by summarising the sequence of values CBFS has adopted.

Why is it important that education be based on the interests of children?
There are many reasons, but perhaps the most important ones are:
It allows education to be matched to the growth and development of each child in a sequence dictated by that child.
It directly addresses the common problem of children who disengage from learning.
It begins preparation for university life after school when many of the usual support structures are no longer available.
It prepares us for adult life where we are responsible for ourselves from the earliest ages.

The session focused on the first and third of these, and in particular on the problem of children and young adults who go through school protected from everything by schools and parents:
They are not allowed to fail;
They are not given responsibility for their own learning;
They are taught to remember but not to think;
They are not prepared for life after school when to a considerable extent they will be "on their own".

Many schools – and certainly not only schools in China – are so worried about eventual examination results such as at gaokao, A level or IB Diploma that they over-teach and take far too much of the responsibility for each student’s learning on themselves. This leaves students with a cliff to climb when they finish school because they have not learned how to take responsibility for their own learning. This is an unhealthy and ultimately dangerous pattern of growth that does not serve students well in the longer term.

Instead, there are other models that are variously depicted in the following diagram. (The teachers felt that it would have been helpful to have a scale showing how high the cliff is, but we are treating it as the level required for entry to university.)

Assuming the cliff is the level required to enter university, each of the four patterns shows different ways to approach that transition:
A is the pattern in the previous picture where schools take all the responsibility on themselves;
B represents a steady growth gradually increasing in speed toward the end;
C shows gentle early years growth followed by rapid change around grades 7-10 and a more gradual approach to the final years of school;
D puts all the emphasis on early years.

Teachers were invited to discuss the merits of the four systems, bearing in mind that every child will develop differently and that some will prefer different patterns. The general consensus was that B left everything too late, but not as badly as A; D puts too much pressure on young children; so C is optimal: allow children to mature early without too much pressure, cater for rapid change during junior high school (middle school) and so be ready for responsible, self-disciplined mature study by the time the last two or three years of school are reached.

In practice schools will adopt mixtures of these profiles for different children in different subjects, and it is a vital part of our mentoring system that teachers monitor and provide suitable approaches for each student.

The key words are "managed", "graduated", "transferred" and "responsibility" for learning. Our interest-driven curriculum model means that we can start this process as soon as children begin school, gradually transferring responsibility for their learning to them so that by the time they are ready to leave school – and wherever they go for their further study – they become self-motivated, self-controlled and self-disciplined students who can manage their own education.

Contrast between interest-driven and externally-dictated educational methods
This brought the discussion back to the contrast between interest-driven and externally-dictated educational methods.
John referred everyone back to his earlier blog "What is Wrong with Education" where he talked about Gu Ailing, the Olympic skier, and the importance of discovering something you want to do with your life that makes even the difficulties and sacrifices you will inevitably face something you readily accept. They don’t seem to be painful sacrifices because they are undertaken as a contribution towards the achievement of something you want to achieve.
The same thinking leads to one of our other CBFS slogans: willing learning is always better than reluctant learning.

This positive reinforcement cycle based on what children are interested in is our model for interest-driven, child-centred, inquiry-based, mentored transdisciplinary learning.

Where schools follow a different path, deciding what children must learn without reference to those children – and even the IB can be accused of this to some extent because it has not yet embraced the ideas behind Design Thinking – a negative cycle is the most likely result.
Now, because they are never given the space and opportunity to discover their own interests, children feel forced to learn, which breaks the principle that willing learning is always better than reluctant learning. And there is a real danger, as they grow older and more insistent on being heard, that children will disengage from learning just at the age – around 11-14 years – when their most formative growth should take place.

A key component of interest-driven learning is that we place more emphasis on enjoying learning for its own sake than on learning conceived as a sacrifice we make today for the sake of tomorrow, and especially some "tomorrow" dictated by someone else. This tendency of educators to try to justify uninteresting, tedious learning on the grounds that it is "necessary for what comes later" is a disaster for student motivation and engagement.
A far better approach places emphasis on enjoying the present experience of learning, and allowing the future to look after itself.

This summary of a point John Dewey makes in his 1938 book Experience and Education really points us in the direction of how to reinforce the positives of learning based upon interest.
LIVING THE PRESENT
"We need to learn to extract as much of the meaning of every present experience as possible...
...that in the end is the only preparation for the future that amounts to anything."
-- John Dewey
But it raises at least two questions:
What’s the right balance between teacher input based upon what children need to know and interest-driven education based upon what they want to know?
What do we really mean by "experience"? Some experiences are relatively trivial: how do we learn positively from experience in an enjoyable and fruitful way?

Let’s deal with these in turn.
A QUESTION OF BALANCE
This is all very well, I hear you and a great many parents say:
But what about the required curriculum?
What about the things children need to know...
Whether they want to learn them or not?
How do children know what they need to know?
What is the right BALANCE between teacher input and interest-driven, child-centred inquiry?

We can’t expect every child to rediscover for themselves everything that has ever been discovered by the human race: that would mean that we in effect were expecting them to begin all over again, which would be absurd.
So, there is enormous value in teachers providing resources in terms of knowledge, skills and best learning-practices that mean that children don’t have to begin all over again and can "start where their elders left off". But that doesn’t mean that the resources are forced on children. On the contrary, they’re provided at the right speed and in the right way to take account of the particular learning-styles, interests and needs of each child. That’s the power of a mentored approach: it personalises learning, and enables children to acquire necessary knowledge in optimal ways in terms of speed, sequence, style and direction.

And what about experience? How do we ensure that experiences are educational rather than frivolous.
BUT WHAT IS "AN EXPERIENCE"?
How do we "extract as much of the meaning from every present experience as possible"?
By learning to REFLECT on what is happening while it is happening.
What is going on?
What does it mean?
What does it link to?
How can I enjoy the present moment?
How deep and rich is it?
The key here is another central educational word much used by the IB: reflection. Reflection involves thinking about every experience, putting it in context, and understanding that even if it is at first relatively fleeting and even thin – we may just put a child on a horse for a few minutes, and that is all there is to it, waiting to see if they are attracted to and interested in equestrianism – we can build a mini program of inquiry around that experience.

That’s the point of our mentored transdisciplinary learning diagram that we can fill in in response to any experience or interest whatsoever. We’ve already been using one in our summer camps based on the idea of a child being "interested in horses".

INTEREST DRIVEN
We can choose something to do with children...
...but in order for the mere experience to become an educational experience...
...we need to REFLECT on it...
...filling in the gaps
What we’ve done is to consider some of the many ways in which our interest in horses can be expanded, and as a result our experience enriched. These include thinking about horses in sport, in art, in history, in questions about where they come from, about their biology, how long they live, the contribution they have made to human history and development, and all sorts of other questions including the rich vocabulary associated with horses in English and Chinese.

Once we’ve understood this idea, we can apply it to any experience. For example, the summer camp visited a motor museum and did many other things.
Members of the training-group were invited to look at a blank version of the curriculum diagram and choose their own subject of interest from which they could draw up their own mini unit of inquiry.

CHILD CENTRED
We should include children in the DESIGN of their own learning...
What are your interested in?
What do you already know?
What can we find out?
Let's learn together!
We turn mere experiences into rich, educational experiences by using them to reflect on the wider aspects of the topic of interest that lies at their centre. And we ensure that all these interest-driven inquiries cover the required content of the Chinese National Curriculum by using curriculum mapping from the subjects studied and the knowledge acquired to the demands in the Standards.

As an example, John shared something he often used to do to try to give people a more intuitive idea of how big one million is by using the diagrams as shown. We can use the notion that dinosaurs lived "millions of years ago" to ask all kinds of questions, including "How big is a million?", which is one of the content-specific topics in the primary mathematics curriculum.

The diagram shows how one million is 100 lots of 10,000, or 100 x 100 x 100
All staff were interested in discussing these ideas and many other ideas further, so we have planned some sessions on curriculum mapping and dealing with different kinds of specific and non-specific anxiety as they manifest themselves in teachers, parents and students.

Someone asked what we can do with children who, despite all these attempts to engage them in an interest-driven education, still exhibit disengagement.
John said that the key to this is to understand the disengagement as a symptom that gives us clues to what a student is feeling, helps us to interact with them to investigate what might interest them more, and not as a piece of deliberate bad behaviour: treat the way the student is behaving as a clue to find new ways to help them engage.
We agreed that we will return to these and many other topics in future sessions.

撰文 Author:约翰·普德富德 John Puddefoot
翻译 Translator: CBFS教学部 CBFS Teaching Department
一审 First Reviewer: 彭瑶 Tiffany Peng
二审 Second Reviewer: 卢思莹 Daisy Lu
终审 Final Reviewer: 邹菁 Zoe Zou

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